October 14, 2008
Japanese Airlines Flight 123 Plane Crash pt 5
Posted by: Cargo Blog : Category: Air Cargo Blog
JAL 123 plane crash.
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October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
the mis repair caused this accident! the pilots may or maynot have been able to save the plane. it doesn’t matter to me what matters is that people died and all we are doing is cutting costs on planes because of rising fuel and paying more people and alot of planes so this type of thing has the potential to re-occour because of cutting corners and not enough time and effort being placed
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
i place the fault with no one because this is a tragic mistake. i don’t think anyone did it on purpose so that is why i not placing fault with someone.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
The pilots did an amazing feet of flying. Even though they crashed. When they lost the tailplane and hydraulics, they were doomed. Read the accident report on this crash and read the CVR transcript then make up your mind at to whose fault it was.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Once the tail was lost, the plane was doomed. It was amazing that they kept it in the air for as long as they did. No one in the simulator could even do it. The pilots should be praised for what they were even able to do, even though they crashed. Boeing’s mis-repair caused this accident!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
would you stop twisting my words and just realize that all i said was the pilots may not have suffered hypoxia and that not suffering it could have helped but that it probably wouldn’t!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
sigh… this whole thing, your on, is just to pay me out for a misunderstanding on your part. isn’t it?(rhetorical question if you didn’t get it!)
my first comment related to “hypoxia” and how it(the hypoxia) could have been avoided i never said the plane wasn’t domed!
i also said that i like to think there is always a way out of something even if i know there isn’t. i never said there was a way out of this accident!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
well you might like to think there is, but in this case there wasn’t.
Welcome to reality budgie.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
!!I’M NOT STUPID!! i realize that in this situation it was “a sheer miracle” anyone lived! but i like to always be positive and think that there is a way out of everything (i realise there isn’t but i like to think there is)
FOR THE RECORD
there was one plane that managed to land without any hydrolics- that plane was a mail-carrier(cannot remember the correct term) it landed safely and all 3 on-board survived without much more than a few scratches. it was damaged by a missile
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
it was impossible to land the plane without loss of life and a sheer miracle anyone survived
- fact
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
you never know simulates aren’t always perfect. i don’t blame the pilots. i could never blame somebody for something like this it just isn’t fair to blame someone for this type of thing. to place that on someone’s shoulders. i just always try to think that there IS a way out of something even though that something may be almost unavoidable. and your right it WAS probably impossible to stop what happened but i like to think it could have been.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I disagree. Several different professional airline pilots tried on simulators to land the plane safely - none could.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
there are crash investigations about all of them - that is where i got them from. go to my channel-there in my subscriptions you should find a few people(including the poster of this vid) who upload air crash investigations eppisodes the one that is aircrashinvestigate - or something like that does have the crack and i think either arenaskies(this person) or aircrashinvestigate has the piece of debris on the runway one i think it was the concord or something that it happened not to sure…
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
yes they may have been able to!
hyproxia it a time related condition if they’d decended to a place with more oxygen quickly enough they wouldn’t of suffered it…
as unknownkw already said:
“There were indeed pilot errors: They did not put on masks immediately when faced an explosive decompression, and did not immediately decend. If they did, they probably won’t suffer hyproxia and make more right decisions.”
if they’d done this to begin with. many people who died would have survived!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
is there an air crash investigation episode about the piece of debris on the runway or the small crack? I would love to watch them!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
He had no reason to be sorry.
The people who repaired it all those years ago probibly skipped the bolts because their break was soon or something…
THEY should have taken their lives…. if that is how they apologise
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
theres only so much time you can have to land
and because of the damage, landing wasnt the option…
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
why didnt they check the explosion right away?!
any explosion on an aircraft is dangours!!!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
There are some interesting documentaries in Japanese. One of them, “??????? (1-4)” on You Tube, unfortunately in Japanese but it shows more personal story of victim’s family, pilot etc. I wish I can translate for you!
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
He committed suicide. I know it does not solve anything but it is very Japanese way of showing sorry.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
you would get sucked in into the engines and therefore you would become a slush of your own body in the sky.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I’m not sure if you are familiar with Japan or not, the vast majority of Japan is mountainous, roughly 80% of it. The rest is high density population areas (the Tokyo Metro area is the largest metropolitan area in the world).
“Somewhere near the airport” in Tokyo would of been right in downtown.
The pilots really had no control, its a miracle they had the plane flying so long, Imagine if you just lost over half your tail.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Of course its standard procedure. But remember, the decompression happened way in the back. In the cockpit, there was no sign of it. That could be lack of judgment by the flight crew.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Putting on their masks is a standard procedure they should’ve performed when there cabin pressure is below certain level. They have so many time to do this yet none in the cockpit did so. It’s a fatal mistake that shouldn’t happen at all, call that adquate training. If any of the pilot, first officer or the flight engineer did so I’m pretty sure other two will follow that could eventually emerge a better outcome with more survivors.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Well, they really couldn’t do anything about that due to Hypoxia They couldn’t do anything because a lack of oxygen to the brain doesn’t let them do what they would have to do in the case of an emergency.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Though the pilots aren’t the ones to blame, as they shouldn’t take all this in the first place. When all hydraulics failed there is no procedure, the books are out of the window. They panicked, still struggled, that is totally understandable. What could be done is better training, so that other pilots will do better then they did when similar situation happen. It’s clear that lack of emergency training contributed to the death toll. This has been corrected and the pilots today should do better.